Which Book Dishonors God? the Bible or the Quran?
This is a new series (1-33) of Verse No. in the Bible versus the Quran.
Verse No. 33 in the Old Testament says: And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.
Verse No. 33 in the New Testament says: He sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him.”
Verse No. 33 in the Noble Quran says: Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable– (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say: what is it that Allah means by this parable: he causes many to err by it and many he leads aright by it! but he does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors; Allah misleads many and guides many. ‘ but he misleads none except the evildoers,
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The verse No. 33 in the Old Testament is Genesis 2:2
The verse says: And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.
It is very clear that God Rested! Herein, there are some questions:
What is the physiology of Rest?
What is the Linguistics of Rest?
Does God Rest? The Bible: Yes, the Quran: Never Ever.
Does God Sleep? The Bible: Yes, the Quran: Never Ever.
Why this Topic is very important and risky?
The physiology of rest:
Rest (and recovery) is so important and is an essential part of the fitness equation. By balancing the appropriate amounts of stress and rest in your workout program, you will minimize fatigue and your body will grow steadily stronger. It is assumed that the rest reaction is to a large extent a reaction of the cardiovascular and respiratory system in the period immediately after the effort has ceased.
The Linguistics of Rest:
Rest as a noun is defined as the refreshing quiet or repose of sleep, the refreshing ease or inactivity after exertion or labor, a period or interval of inactivity or repose, cessation or absence of motion, etc.
Rest as a verb is defined as to relieve weariness by cessation of exertion or labor, to be at ease, to be quiet or still, to cease from motion, to become or remain inactive, to stay as is or remain without further action or notice, to lie, sit, lean, or be set, to be, become, or remain temporarily still, quiet, or inactive, to take a short break from one’s activities in order to relax, poetically, to be dead (in dust it is our final rest).
However, the verb rest also means to slumber, to lie down, especially to sleep; in addition it means to sleep.
In the Bible: Does God sleep?
Psalm 78:65 says:
New International Version
Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, as a man wakes from the stupor of wine.
New American Standard Bible
Then the Lord awoke as if from sleep, Like a warrior overcome by wine.
English Standard Version
Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, like a strong man shouting because of wine.
King James Version
Then the LORD awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouteth by reason of wine.
This means that God, the Lord, was sleep then He awoke as from sleep.
It is interesting that the Bible declares that God, the Lord, awoke as from sleep, as a man wakes from the stupor of wine, Like a warrior overcome by wine, like a strong man shouting because of wine.
So, God was drunken stupor; that means a state of unconsciousness.
In the Quran: Does Allah Rest?
Verse 50:38 says:
QARIB: in six days we created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them and no weariness touched us!
SHAKIR: and certainly we created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods and there touched us not any fatigue
PICKTHAL: and verily we created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days, and naught of weariness touched us.
YUSUFALI: we created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch us.
The verse means: And verily Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them of created beings and marvels, in six days,
It is said that each day the equivalent of 1,000 years of present days,
Allah was not tired and no weariness, no fatigue, touched Him
The preclusion of weariness in His case is absolute on account of His transcending of the attributes of creatures and the non-existence of any contiguity between Him and other beings
In the Quran: Does Allah Sleep?
Verse 2:55 says:
QARIB: Allah, there is no god except he, the living, the everlasting. neither dozing, nor sleep overtakes him.
SHAKIR: Allah is he besides whom there is no god, the everliving, the self-subsisting by whom all subsist; slumber does not overtake him nor sleep;
PICKTHAL: Allah! there is no deity save him, the alive, the eternal. neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh him.
YUSUFALI: Allah! there is no god but he,-the living, the self-subsisting, eternal. no slumber can seize him nor sleep.
The verse means that slumber does not overtake Allah nor sleep; no slumber can seize Him nor sleep.
Why this Topic is very important and risky?
The first pillar of Muslim’s faith is DO Not mess up with Allah, your Lord.
Allah is not like us, no deficit(s) like rest, nap, slumber, sleep, eating etc. can touch him. He does not need any of that things that we need.
What if one believes that Allah, the Lord does any of the above or the alike? Then he destroys the first pillar of faith; this means ,clear cut, that he becomes unbeliever and he deserves severe Punishment in the Afterlife. In other words, it is Unforgivable Sin that shall not be forgiven unto man to say or to believe that the Lord, the Creator, rests, slumber, sleep etc. Such sin(s) will lead to the Eternal Fire.
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The verse No. 33 in the New Testament is Matthew 2:8
The verse says: He sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him.”
The verse means that King Herod sent the Magi to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently, make a careful search for the young child (the Lord Jesus); and when you have found him (As soon as you find him), bring me word again (report to me), that I may come and worship him also.
However, it is said in the explanation of the verse that, though Herod was very old, and never had shown affection for his family, and was not himself likely to live till a new-born infant (the Lord Jesus) had grown up to manhood, he began to be troubled with the dread of a rival.
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Verse No. 33 in the Noble Quran is 2:26,
Chapter 2 is Surah AL-BAQARA (THE COW),
The background of the verse 2:26:
And when the disbelievers said, ‘Why does Allah strike a similitude about flies, where He says, And if a fly should rob them of anything [Verse 22:73]
and about a spider, where He says, As the likeness of the spider [Verse 29:41]:
what does Allah want with these vile, low and degraded creatures?
Allah then revealed the verse 2:26
The verse says: Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable– (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say: what is it that Allah means by this parable: he causes many to err by it and many he leads aright by it! but he does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors; Allah misleads many and guides many. ‘ but he misleads none except the evildoers,
The meaning of verse 2:26
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Then Allah mentioned the disbelievers’ objection to the Quran’s similes, saying: (Lo! Allah disdained not), He cannot abstain from coining similes, and how can He disdain mentioning something that if all created being were to join forces to create, they would not be able to do so. Allah does not disdain (to coin the similitude) Allah does not disdain explaining to people a similitude (even of a gnat), even regarding a gnat, (or what is above it) let alone a simile of something greater than a gnat such as a fly, or a spider or even smaller than a gnat. (Those who believe) in Muhammad and the Quran (know that it), the simile, (is the Truth from their Lord; but those who disbelieve), in Muhammad and the Quran, (say: What doth Allah wish (to teach) by such similitude?)
Say: O Muhammad! What Allah wishes by such simile is that (He misleads many thereby) of the disbelievers from the true Religion, (and He guides many thereby) of the believers, (and He misleads thereby), by such similes, (only miscreants); he misleads none except the evildoers.
In other words, the verse says:
Allah is not ashamed to strike, to make, a similitude even of a gnat, that is, small flies; or anything above it, that is, larger than it or smaller than it.
As for the believers, they know it, the similitude, is the truth, established and given in this instance, from their Lord; but as for disbelievers, they say, ‘What did Allah desire by this for a similitude?’
Allah then responds to them saying: Thereby, that is, by this similitude, He leads many astray, from the truth on account of their disbelieving in it, and thereby He guides many, believers on account of their belief in it; and thereby He leads none astray except the wicked, those that reject obedience to Him. Allah misleads many and guides many. ‘ but he misleads none except the evildoers,
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Verse No. 33 in the Old Testament, the New Testament in four different versions of the Bible; and in the Noble Quran in Four different Translations
Verse No. 33 in the Old Testament
Genesis 2:2
New International Version:
2] By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.
New American Standard Version:
2] By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
English Standard Version:
2] And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.
King James Version:
2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
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Verse No. 33 in the New Testament
Matthew 2:8
New International Version:
8] He sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him.”
New American Standard Version:
8] And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the Child; and when you have found Him, report to me, so that I too may come and worship Him.”
English Standard Version:
8] And he sent them to Bethlehem, saying, “Go and search diligently for the child, and when you have found him, bring me word, that I too may come and worship him.”
King James Version:
8] And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
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Verse No. 33 in the Noble Quran
Chapter 2:26
Surah AL-BAQARA (THE COW)
QARIB: Allah is not shy to strike a parable whatsoever a gnat or larger. those who believe know that it is the truth from their lord. as for those who disbelieve they ask: ‘what could Allah mean by this parable? by it, Allah misleads many and guides many. ‘ but he misleads none except the evildoers,
SHAKIR: surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable– (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say: what is it that Allah means by this parable: he causes many to err by it and many he leads aright by it! but he does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors,
PICKTHAL: lo! Allah disdaineth not to coin the similitude even of a gnat. those who believe know that it is the truth from their lord; but those who disbelieve say: what doth Allah wish (to teach) by such a similitude? he misleadeth many thereby, and he guideth many thereby; and he misleadeth thereby only miscreants;
YUSUFALI: Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. those who believe know that it is truth from their lord; but those who reject faith say: “what means Allah by this similitude?” by it he causes many to stray, and many he leads into the right path; but he causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path),-
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It is very premature to ask this question:
Is the Quran quoted from the Bible?
Wait and you will see.
Prof.dr. Ibrahim Khalil
http://www.articlesbase.com/free-articles/which-book-dishonors-god-the-bible-or-the-quran-688452.html
February 17th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Which religious Book commands better treatment for women………. the Bible, Torah or the Quran ?
"Any woman who prays with her head unveiled dishonors her head. It is the same as if her head were shaven, for if a woman will not veil herself then she should cut off her hair. But if it is disgraceful for a woman to be shorn or shaven , let her wear a veil. (1 Corenthians 11 :5).
Whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
(MATT 5:28-29).
TIT002:005 – To be discreet, chaste, keepers at HOME, good, OBEDIENT to their HUSBANDS…
1PE 3:001 – Likewise, ye wives, be in SUBJECTION to your own HUSBANDS. ——-
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in SUBMISSION, as the Law says. — 1 Corinthians 14:34
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach [didaskein], nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (1 Timothy 2:11-12)
Ecclesiastes 7:26 KJV: And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her but she will catch whoever continues to sin. (GOD’S WORD®)
"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men".
–1 Timothy 2:11-14
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Genesis 3:16 —-Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy conception; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
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The infamous verse of the KORAN
". . . As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (also: ignore them/seperate from them). . ." (4:34)
Many tried to "beat" around the bush to "beat" the problem generated by the "beat" of 4:34.
Most scholars now agree that the correct translation to this comprehensive word is either IGNORE or TAKE AWAY or SEPARATION FOR A TIME.
So as a last resort before DIVORCE the couple should seperate for a time until reconciliation can be made.
A Famous Multi-Meaning Word
The problem comes from the word "Idribuhunne" which we used to translate as "beat them". The root of this word is "DaRaBa". If you look at any Arabic dictionary you will find a long list of meanings ascribed to this word. That list is one of the longest list in whole Arabic dictionary. It can be said that "DaRaBa" is the number-one multi-meaning word in Arabic. It has so many different meanings, we can find numerous different meanings ascribed to it in the Quran.
To travel, to get out: 3:156; 4:101; 38:44; 73:20; 2:273
To strike: 2:60,73; 7:160; 8:12; 20:77; 24:31; 26:63; 37:93; 47:4
To beat: 8:50; 47:27
To set up: 43:58; 57:13
To give (examples): 14:24,45; 16:75,76,112; 18:32,45; 24:35; 30:28,58; 36:78; 39:27,29; 43:17; 59:21; 66:10,11
To take away, to ignore: 43:5
To condemn: 2:61
To seal, to draw over: 18:11
To cover: 24:31
To explain: 13:17
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Do early Judaic teachings sent from Jesus/Father/Holy Ghost teach that Women are Fat and Stupid ?
Referring to the Rabbis’ opinions on women the above mentioned study also finds:
"A woman has no wisdom, except in handling her spindle" (Rabbi Eliezer, bYoma 66b)."
"women are gluttonous" (mToh. 7.9; tToh.8.16),
"they give off a strong odor of perspiration (’she must use perfume’), they have a higher voice (’her voice is penetrating’)
(all examples from Gen.R.17,8)
The rabbis explained all this differences on the basis of the story of creation, as R.Joshua explained to his disciples (ibid.): women have a bad odor because they were created from flesh and not, like men, from earth…" [73]
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
None of the above. Try feminism.
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
non of them …they all show the idea of stone age men
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
I will you decide they all seem a bit harsh.
And your point is??
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
None seem to be kind to women at all.
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
They are all equally denigrating.
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
the answer is d none of the above
funny you quote corinithians that was written by paul
why not post some hadiths that call women less then men or a female child is a curse or if a woman walks in front of you while praying god wont hear your prayer or lock the women away in rooms
ever hear the phrase people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones?
speaking of stoning why dont men ever get stoned to death under shiara law?
id go to that islamic website i used to go to to ask but they threw me off of it for asking too many questions they couldnt answer
just like that chrsitian one did
the best answe i got was when i asked why is there no proof jesus existed and they actually wrote well its in the quran we have to believe it my response was the eddas say odin is real does that mean he is real? thats when they told me not to come back
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
A book doesn’t treat man or women. Poeple does. And this depend on their understanding of what is right and wrong. It says in the bible that women are created for men and they are supposed to be submisive, the Quran says that people are created equally. However, some Muslims don’t treat women right. They don’t follow their book the right way. And the same thing happend with Christians and Jews!
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February 17th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
The Coran? You have got to be kidding! You treat women like slaves and do it in the name of a "merciful God" What a load of crap.
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